Community Asset Transfers: What You Don't Think About - A Town Council Clerk's Guide to Making Informed Decisions
By Dewi Jones, Town Clerk and RFO at Cyngor Tref Caernarfon
The Day I Became a Boat Owner (And What It Taught Me About Asset Transfers)
When I first walked into my role as Town Clerk at Caernarfon Town Council, I thought I understood what we were dealing with. After all, I'm CiLCA qualified and IOSH-certified in Working Safely at Events. I've spent years in local government, working my way through the ranks. But nothing quite prepared me for what I discovered when I started digging into our community assets.
It reminded me of the day I bought my boat. I treated myself to what I thought was a bargain. The painted hull looked fantastic, the cabin was tidy - a proper little ship. When I got the keys to the wheelhouse, I felt like a captain.
But here's what I learned about boat ownership, and it's exactly the same lesson that applies to community asset transfers: you don't just get the wheelhouse. You also get the engine room.

Surface Success, Submerged Stress
My boat came with a leaking water pump, a dodgy alternator, and bellows that had perished - basically a £700 rubber seal that was letting in water and threatening to sink her. Then there were the mooring fees, insurance, repairs, inspections, and safety gear that I hadn't properly budgeted for.
This is precisely what happens with community asset transfers. What looks like a solid opportunity from the outside can turn into a list of responsibilities that only gets longer once you sign on the dotted line.
What I Walked Into: A 73-Page Wake-Up Call
Let me be brutally honest about what I inherited when I became clerk. The Council had accumulated quite a few assets over the years - we were in three long-term leases, had a large public park, a children's playground, and a four-storey Grade 2 listed community centre. But what we really hadn't grasped was the risk profile that came with these assets.
We were tied into a few seven-year leases, locking up a huge portion of our precept, but we had no reserves to cover costs if tenants pulled out. We had all these facilities, but no one had properly considered the compliance and safety requirements that came with them.
We had no condition surveys, no asbestos management, no Legionella risk assessments, no regular hazard checks, and no recorded playground inspections. When I brought in an external auditor to assess our health and safety compliance position, I ended up with a 73-page report containing 113 urgent recommendations.
This wasn't just untidy paperwork - it represented genuine risks to public safety, council finances, and potentially my position as the responsible person under health and safety legislation.
Understanding Community Asset Transfer: The Official Definition
According to My Community (2020), "Community Asset Transfer is an established mechanism used to enable the community ownership and management of publicly owned land and buildings." In practice, this means the transfer of local authority "assets" to local councils - and I've put "assets" in quotation marks for a very important reason.
Here's the fundamental question that every council needs to ask before taking on any transfer: If something costs you money every single year, drains your resources, and absorbs your time and capacity, is it really an asset or is it actually a liability?
Let me clarify these terms:
- An asset is something you own that has value, can generate income, or appreciates in value and can be sold for cash
- A liability is something that takes money out of your pocket regularly - loans, leases, ongoing service contracts, or any obligation requiring payment
The critical distinction in asset transfers is understanding exactly what you're being offered. Are you being transferred ownership (freehold), or are you being offered a 99-year full repairing lease? Because in financial terms, a 99-year full repairing lease isn't a gift - it's a massive responsibility.
Why We Do It (And Why We Should Be Careful)
Don't get me wrong - community asset transfers can be transformational for communities. The benefits are real:
- Democratic control: Often more democratic and closer to service users
- Local empowerment: Gives communities direct control over their spaces
- Service protection: Saves community services that might otherwise be lost
- Grant opportunities: Can open doors to funding streams not available to principal authorities
But we need to be honest about the challenges:
- Financial liabilities: Especially if you're tied to long-term leases
- Skills gaps: Most local councils don't have estates teams or in-house legal advice
- Ongoing maintenance: Buildings don't maintain themselves
- Community expectations: Taking on beloved assets means taking on hopes and complaints
- Limited capacity: Most clerks are already stretched thin
Assets are rarely transferred during times of plenty. They're handed down in times of crisis when budgets are tight and someone higher up is looking to cut costs.
The Insurance Reality Check: More Than Just FLEEA Cover
Let's talk about something that often gets overlooked: insurance. It's not a one-off payment - it's an ongoing cost that can be significantly higher than what principal authorities were paying.
Your insurer will likely insist on a reinstatement valuation, and you'll need a full condition report for planning and budgeting. One thing that's easily missed is that most buildings are transferred after their original use has ended, often sitting empty for months or years.
Insuring an empty building isn't easy. In some cases, all you can get is FLEEA cover (Fire, Lightning, Earthquake, Explosion, and Aircraft impact) - and even that comes with conditions. Your insurer might insist you board the property to secure it, but Natural Resources Wales might refuse permission unless you've done a bat survey first.
Early insurer engagement is absolutely essential - build it into your timeline and budget. This needs to happen before you sign a lease or agree to a handover date. You'll also face ongoing costs and restrictions that don't apply to principal authorities, who may self-insure or carry larger excesses that aren't practical for local councils.
The Business Plan That Could Save You
In 2010, Connah’s Quay Town Council took on a lease for a building and opened the Quay Cafe. It sounded like a good idea - community cafe, providing space and helping with food costs. They had a business plan, but it was vague, optimistic, and thin.
By 2018, the cafe had drawn a cumulative loss of over £234,000, paid for through increased precepts. The Auditor General produced a report in the public interest - the strongest possible censure of a community council - stating that the Council had acted unlawfully because they didn't have proper power and lacked a sound basis for decision-making.
The Essential 7-Point Checklist
Based on my experience and the lessons learned from others' mistakes, here's what every council needs to consider:
1. Terms of Transfer - Drive a Hard Bargain
- Is it leasehold (liability) or freehold (potentially an asset)?
- If freehold, is there a sunset clause limiting your ability to sell?
2. Prepare a Robust Business Plan
- Would your business plan survive audit scrutiny?
- Have you identified clear statutory powers?
- Is there a realistic exit strategy if income doesn't materialise?
3. Identified and Planned for Health & Safety Responsibilities
- Are you resourced and trained for the duties the asset brings?
- Do you understand your role as the responsible person?
4. Sufficient Reserves to Mitigate Risk
- Have you made sufficient provision in reserves?
- Can you cover ongoing costs if income streams fail?
5. Speak to Your Insurer Early in the Process
- Have you spoken to your insurer before committing?
- Do you understand the full cost implications?
6. Get a Full Condition Survey
- Have you secured comprehensive condition reports?
- Do you understand what maintenance will be required?
7. Budget for Transfer Costs
- Have you budgeted for legal fees, surveys, and professional advice?
- Are you prepared for ongoing periodic assessments?
Don't be afraid to say no. If you're going to drive a hard bargain, you have to be prepared to walk away.
Practical Strategies for Council Officers
Before You Sign Anything:
- Negotiate hard: Push for freehold over leasehold. If it's a service that loses money annually, negotiate a cash transfer to go with it.
- Demand surveys: Get a full condition report, electrical installation condition report (EICR) - you'll need a new one in your name anyway - and asbestos survey completed before transfer
- Calculate true costs: Remember that principal authorities often use internal services that won't be available to you. Their accounts might show no repair costs because "the property department just fixes it."
- Plan for periodics: Budget for reinstatement cost surveys every five years, along with all other periodic checks and certifications.
- Consider governance: Sometimes running assets through a different structure (like a registered charity) can save significant costs - we save thousands on business rates this way.

Be Prepared to Walk Away
If you're going to drive a hard bargain, you have to be prepared to walk away. Not every transfer is a good deal, and not every opportunity is worth the risk.
Real-World Examples: Learning from Others
The Mixed Bag Approach - One council I spoke with has taken on multiple assets with varying success:
- Two sets of public toilets purchased 13 years ago
- A Grade 2 listed building generating £300 every weekend for ghost hunts
- A new community building with a cafe making £800-900 monthly but paying £1,000 in electricity
The key lesson? Having reserves to cover deficits is essential.
The Listed Building Trap - Another council discovered that work had been done on a listed bandstand by the County Council in breach of listing requirements. The repair cost exceeded their entire precept, and they're now legally responsible for rectifying unauthorized changes.
The Success Story - Where principal authorities are motivated to transfer, councils can negotiate excellent deals. One council is working with Lincolnshire County Council, who are even helping write the business plan because they want services maintained that they can no longer provide.
Key Takeaways
- Every asset comes with a complete risk profile - know what you're inheriting
- Financial planning must include worst-case scenarios - hope for the best, plan for the worst
- Legal and insurance costs are significant - budget for professional advice
- Your role as responsible person carries personal liability - understand the implications
- Negotiation is expected - don't accept the first offer
- Early professional engagement is crucial - speak to insurers, solicitors, and surveyors before committing
Conclusion: Being Competent, Not Difficult
Assets can be brilliant for communities, but only if we approach them with our eyes wide open. Our job as clerks isn't to be obstructive - it's to be competent. We serve our communities best when we ask the right questions, demand proper information, and ensure sustainable financial planning.
When someone offers you a "gift," remember my boat story. That beautiful wheelhouse comes with an engine room, and goodwill won't fix the boiler, and wishes won't stop the roof leaking.
You have the right to say "No thanks, not like this, not yet, or not without a proper plan." That's not being difficult - that's being a clerk.
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Professional Contacts and Resources
- Connect with me on LinkedIn for ongoing discussions about local government challenges and solutions. If you learn something useful from implementing these strategies, please tag me in a post - John Fagan might just invite you to present at the next Scribe Academy session!
- For Insurance Advice: Colin Raffell - colin.raffell@jameshallan.co.uk / 07731 604177
- For Health & Safety Audits: Ian Gardner - ian_gardner@btconnect.com / 01745 550255 (Ian conducted our comprehensive 73-page health and safety review)
- For General Community Asset Transfer Advice: Cymuned Consulting - clercydref@gmail.com
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: Is 15 months normal for completing an asset transfer? A: Unfortunately, yes. One clerk reported being 15 months into trying to get a draft lease from their County Council for a youth center. The complexity of local government processes means these transfers rarely happen quickly, so plan accordingly and don't let timescales pressure you into accepting poor terms.
Q: Should I always push for freehold over leasehold? A: Generally yes, but it depends on the asset's condition. If you're looking at a 50-year-old building needing a £53,000 roof replacement, and the lease makes the principal authority responsible for structural repairs, leasehold might actually protect you. The key is understanding exactly what responsibilities transfer with each arrangement.
Q: What happens if the principal authority disappears during local government reorganization? A: This is a growing concern. If you're on a long-term lease and your District Council disappears in 2028, the successor authority will likely want to convert leases to freehold to reduce their ongoing liabilities. Make sure your lease terms are clear about what happens in reorganization scenarios.
Q: Can they force us to take on assets we don't want? A: No. Asset transfers require your agreement - they can't simply announce that something "will be transferred." You have the right to refuse, negotiate terms, or walk away entirely. Don't let anyone pressure you into thinking you have no choice.
Q: How do I find out the true running costs of an asset? A: Request detailed management accounts from the principal authority, but remember these often won't show the full picture. Internal services, cross-departmental support, and economies of scale mean your actual costs will likely be higher. Always add a significant contingency to any figures they provide.
Q: What's the maximum penalty for getting this wrong? A: For financial mismanagement, the strongest censure is a report in the public interest from the Auditor General - essentially public embarrassment and scrutiny. However, for health and safety failures, individual clerks can face personal liability under various legislation, including potential criminal charges in serious cases.
Dewi Jones is Town Clerk and RFO at Cyngor Tref Caernarfon. He holds the CiLCA qualification and is IOSH-certified in Managing Safely. His experience managing complex community assets and navigating compliance challenges provides practical insights for councils considering asset transfers.
References:
- Audit Wales (2019). Quay Cafe - Connahs Quay Town Council
- My Community (2020). Understanding Community Asset Transfer
- Ystadau Cymru (2019). Community Asset Transfers - Welsh Government Guide
- Gardner, I. (2024). Caernarfon Royal Town Council Health and Safety Review
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